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Pharma Shake-Up, Zoo Debate & Sober Shift: We’re back from summer break with Season 4, as Fionn and Golda explore how Novo Nordisk’s leadership change, Aalborg Zoo’s livestock feeding debate, and Denmark’s growing alcohol-free culture touch daily life for internationals in Denmark. Both with a strong connection to Denmark, they link the headlines to real concerns – job stability, cultural surprises, and finding your place in social life. Hear their candid, cross-cultural take in Season 4, Episode 1 of Last Week in Denmark.

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(03:11) Novo Nordisk slump & new international CEO

(12:07) Aalborg Zoo's call for "pets"   

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Fionn:

Hi there and welcome to the Last Week in Denmark podcast. If you're new to the podcast, here's how it works. Each week, two of our community members talk through the Danish news, stories, and developments and how they impact internationals living here. So if you're an international living in Denmark, thinking about moving here, or maybe you're just a Dane looking for a different perspective on the news, then welcome home. This is where you belong and we're so glad you're here. We've got three full seasons ready for you to explore, and now we're back from summer with new episodes every week during season four. I'm Fionn O’Toole and joining me this week is Golda Fania. This week we're going to be exploring topics like Novo Nordisk having a new international CEO, the Austrian Mike Doustdar. But he inherits a pharma giant in crisis. We'll look at Alborg Zoo, making global headlines as it defends feeding livestock to their predators. And we're going to take a look at the rise of alcohol free drinks or the alcohol free culture in Denmark. Before we get going though, we'd like to ask one thing. If what we're talking about resonates with you, please screenshot this episode and share it on social media. We're here to help internationals in Denmark stay informed and feel connected. So thank you for helping us reach more people like you. So, Golda, welcome back. We're in episode one of season four. Did you have a good summer?

 

Golda:

Yes, I did. It was very beautiful here in the UK. Lots of sun and of course, it's just lovely to be on holiday. Everybody is so cheery. Everyone's smiling a little bit more than usual. And I'm sure it's those summer tans. What about you? How was your summer?

 

Fionn:

Well, I don't know about summer tans because I spent my summer holidays in Ireland. Although, you know, I have, I'm slightly redder from the kind of shoulders down. I have what we call the farmer's tan, but then underneath, you know, my T shirt, I'm still completely milk white. But, yeah, I enjoyed a lovely summer hiking around the mountains in Ireland, which, you know, we don't have here in Denmark, really. And that came with beautiful things like occasional sunshine, but mostly thunderstorms and hail and hours upon hours of walking in the rain.

 

Golda:

Oh, hail.

 

Fionn:

Literal hail. Yeah. You know, ice flying down from the sky just to, just to wish us well on our journey.

 

Golda:

Wow. Yeah, that's a different kind of summer. Definitely never experienced that before.

 

Fionn:

Yeah. Whenever Danes, you know, complain that their summer is terrible. I always kind of look at them and like, you've no idea. You've no idea. To me, this is magical. You'll have days where it's consistently above 20 degrees and not raining. You don't know how lucky you are.

 

Golda:

I'm gonna take that into consideration next time.

 

Fionn:

Yeah. Well, we have three topics that we're going to dive into this week and maybe speaking of feeling like you're being pelted by thunderstorms and freezing hail and all those wonderful, wonderful things, Novo Nordisk has a new CEO, which was just announced, I think on Thursday last week. Mike Doustdar is taking over from Lars Fruergaard Jørgensen and he's taking over a company in crisis. I don't know. Has that reached the news in the UK?

 

Golda:

It definitely has. Especially as someone who spends every day, 80% of my time on LinkedIn. I was a bit surprised because I remember I actually recently started following Lars Fruergaard and I was like, oh, this is the CEO of Novo Nordisk. Nice. Maybe I should see what's happening. And the next thing I see is like an international is taking over Novo Nordisk. I was like, wow, okay. Novo Nordisk is an international company, so I'm actually not surprised on that front. And it is leading in a lot of the areas that they work on, so this is like a huge thing. I'm also a bit, I think, trying to digest the fact that the stocks have gone down as someone who has invested, but, you know, that's how it is with the stock market. You just have to follow the dips and the rises. What about you?

 

Fionn:

I maybe at times over the last year have kicked myself for not having invested in a Nordisk. And at the moment, I wouldn't say I'm feeling smug at all because this might be the perfect time to, to buy and it, it suddenly jumps up. Obviously that is not financial advice, in no way. But yeah, I mean, I think it is really something that I haven't always kept a huge eye on it. I've just kind of seen this maybe in the, the background of the news. You know, it's exploded as, as a company. And the sales of Ozempic and Wegovy seemed to be almost driving the Danish economy sometimes if you read the news. So it was actually a bit of a surprise to me maybe because I, you know, wasn't paying attention to the stock price or anything to learn that actually that sales were, were failing to a degree. Certainly not meeting the, the Expectations and then to suddenly see this, like, huge, huge drop in the stock. Because I think at the peak it was last year at the summer of 2024, the price of a share was over a thousand krona, and recently it was under 300. I think it's. It's kind of popped up a little, little bit since then.

 

Golda:

Get in, get in.

 

Fionn:

Yeah, yeah.

 

Golda:

Honestly, Because I remember when the dip happened during lockdown and everyone was saying, this is your chance to buy stocks and buy stocks. And I was like, I don't know about that. I don't trust it. And then I saw Novo stocks go from those 300 to like 800 at some point, and I was like, oh, my. So I bought it actually around that time last year, I think they did, where they split one stock in two. So I must have gotten it around those 500 when it was worth around the 1000. But now I'm a bit like, eyes closed. I'm just gonna wait and see what happens. As you mentioned, Novo does actually contribute a huge, significant amount to Denmark's GDP. So that is why so many people are concerned.

 

Fionn:

Yeah.

 

Golda:

What I read their sales growth was forecasted previously from 13 to 21%, and now it's down to 8 to 14%. So he has a lot of responsibility on his shoulder coming in to accompany in such, ah such a state. I don't know. Could not be me. That's all I know.

 

Fionn:

Well, I mean, I think for. Although we talk about this guy being an international, he is no stranger to Novo Nordisk. I think he's been part of Novo Nordisk for 33 years, starting, I believe, in the mail room in their Vienna office.

 

Golda:

Really?

 

Fionn:

I think so. I was watching a little video they put out, I think, just yesterday, kind of introducing him, but still to a degree, you know, an insider within the company. Not to diminish his achievements in terms of becoming the CEO of one of the world's kind of leading companies. But I couldn't help kind of feel for the guy in a way that I don't normally feel for, you know, oh, this person's been appointed a CEO of a company that's, you know, having a bit of troubles. I'm normally going like, yeah, well, they're still being appointed CEO. But I did kind of get the vision of, there's a famous line in Dante's Inferno as they go through the gates of hell, and it says, abandon all hope, ye who enter here. I was wondering if that's maybe going to be written by somebody above the door of his office. And it seems like he has three pretty big tasks kind of on the to dos. I was reading there in the newspapers, obviously stabilizing their stock price, which I guess probably a lot of people outside of Novo, probably a lot of internationals as well, if they've invested, will be really looking at that closely then kind of taking the fight to the competitors and particularly the copy cats. We've seen a lot of that, I think, particularly in the US and then the, the kind of last one that was highlighted was getting control of this like almost wild runaway business. And one of the big things there was like, yes, this company has, has grown so much, but it's also grown hugely in its headcount. I think it has added about 20,000 people as employees over the last two years. I think it's around 77,000 employees globally. I think around 30 to 35,000 here in Denmark.

 

Golda:

Wow.

 

Fionn:

That's what I took from Proff online, I think that's normally quite accurate, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that. One thing is GDP, but in terms of people's jobs and employment, there does seem like there's going to be layoffs, kind of around the corner there. And yeah, I mean you would hope that people are as unaffected as possible, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is a significant chunk of that workforce that is suddenly into the job market again.

 

Golda:

I believe if I'm not mistaken, I did actually see somebody from Novo. I think her entire department was made redundant and she was a senior staff, also an international that just got hired. I believe it was Novo. So you're right. It is actually a concern that I actually didn't think about too much. The fact that this would mean people are losing jobs as well.

 

Fionn:

Yeah, I'm always a little bit skeptical and maybe it's just because I'm not really like a finance guy in any way. But when I see, oh, they performed better than they did last year, but it didn't match investors expectations, so the stock is tanking. There's always part of me that thinks like, well this is kind of like all made up, isn't it? The company is doing well, but somebody thought it should do better. So actually dump the stock and now it’s a crisis. But this is the part where to me it maybe feels much, much more real. That said, there does maybe, maybe, fingers crossed, seem to be some light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak. One of the big competitors, or I think the big competitor is the US Eli Lilly and they have had weight loss jabs very similar, which have, I think, performed very well. And that's also one of the reasons why Novo has been, been challenged on that. But they had announced that they had kind of a pill form, which I thought, okay, that's going to be the, the first one who makes it into a pill instead of an injection is probably going to be the winner out of all of this. But again, thinking about expectations, so their weight loss pill, and I'm sure I'm going to get this name wrong, but it's Orforglipron. It only resulted in an average weight loss of 12.4% among test subjects, which was less than expected. And as a result of that, their stock price has now taken a bit of a tumble. And Novo’s, I think, jumped about 14% this week. So maybe that is the start of a bit of a turnaround. Maybe we're past the lowest point in the dip. Maybe I'm too late to buy again, but we'll have to wait and see. And I think we cross our fingers for all the internationals who are out there, maybe working with Novo Nordisk, who might be feeling worried at the moment about all this, be affected by this. And, yeah, of course, we hope a Danish success story that employs so many people in the country and so many internationals will keep on being a success story.

 

Golda:

I agree. In the famous words of Tyra Banks, we're rooting for you. We're all rooting for you.

 

Fionn:

There we go. We have Dante's Inferno and Tyra Banks in one clip. Well, speaking of great, huge animals that are being eaten by smaller ones, we have Aalborg Zoo. And Aalborg Zoo has, I don't know if you necessarily say, come under fire at the moment, but they've certainly made some headlines internationally. And it's something that's been described as a bit of a storm in a teacup is the fact that Aalborg Zoo has kind of put out this call for donations of smaller livestock and horses, for example, to feed the predators in their zoo. So if you have an old horse who's maybe, you know, seen better days and is coming to the end of its life, well, could it go and feed one of the lions? And this has caused a little bit of shock and surprise, maybe mostly outside of Denmark. And I think it's maybe quite a cultural difference because this is how it's always been done in Aalborg. But I remember years ago, even before ever moving to Denmark, seeing headlines about, I think it was Marius the giraffe who came to the end of his days and was cut up on live television and fed to the lions, after he died, of course.

 

Golda:

Okay.

 

Fionn:

But this, you know, really, really, really shocked a lot of people as well. But I don't know what. What do you think about it? Is this something that shocks you or as somebody who, if I'm not mistaken, you know, grew up in Denmark, is that just par for the course?

 

Golda:

I didn't know about this, I must say. And I even lived in Aalborg, so.

 

Fionn:

Okay. Yeah.

 

Golda:

I did not. This is first time I'm hearing about this. So for me, it depends. Like you said with the giraffe was already gone then, I guess. Why not? I mean, it's the circle of life, right?

 

Fionn:

Exactly.

 

Golda:

But from what I read, they're making it seem as we are framing pets as food. Are we saying, like, pets, as in, like, chickens are pets, or are we going into, like, rabbits and horses being our pets?

 

Fionn:

I mean, rabbits can definitely be, be a pet. I think my son is always bugging me for a pet rabbit because all of his friends have pet rabbits. And I come from Dublin, where horses are absolutely pets. Not only for the wealthy, but, like, you will see kids riding around on the streets with them. I get it. I would be a little bit surprised if Dublin Zoo was announcing this, but it doesn't really surprise me in Denmark that much. But they are very clear that they're not looking for your beloved cat or dog, mostly for the reason that predators typically don't eat other predators. So it is kind of prey animals. So chickens, rabbits, guinea pigs, horses. And the reason they give basically around it is, well, these are predators that exist in nature in a kind of space in the ecosystem, right. And they're used to eating other animals. They're used to eating kind of whole animals. And so it is important for them that they get to kind of have that experience.

 

Golda:

Exactly. Yeah.

 

Fionn:

So, for example, like, the, the bones that they eat contain calcium, which is good for them. The fur, apparently. Well, you know, when they're eating, that acts as a kind of toothbrush for them. So this is, obviously has health benefits for the lions and tigers and whatever other kind of predators that are there. And it's not that, you know, they're just taking somebody's baby guinea pig and just tossing it in. You know, if a horse is donated, comes along, it is, you know, ethically euthanized and then dissected by the zoo.

 

Golda:

I think it's the critique that I'm a bit confused about.

 

Fionn:

Yeah, I think pets are an emotional thing for a lot of people and even, you know, a rabbit. Well, lots of cultures, we eat that all the time, but it is also very cute and fluffy. But I, there's part of me that thinks these aren't just any animals, but these animals are in Denmark. So it's not just a rabbit, it's a Viking rabbit. And as we all know, the Vikings, they wanted to go out and battle. They wanted to end up in Valhalla. And if you're a rabbit, do you just want to gently drift off in the night sometime, or do you want to go to Rabbit Valhalla knowing that, yeah, yes, I died, but I was eaten by a lion. That is way cooler. I mean, I'm starting to reconsider what happens to me after I die now because, like, yeah, he was a great guy. You know, went peacefully, but then he became a great meal for a pack of wolves. I mean, it would be a good headline right on the tombstone. Not that there'd be maybe a tombstone there for anything left.

 

Golda:

Yeah, I don't know how your children are gonna feel about that one.

 

Fionn:

They're young. I can. I can plant the idea now.

 

Golda:

Please don't traumatize them.

 

Fionn:

Yeah, well, going to do it one way or the other. 

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Golda:

I think, again, circle of life, this probably would have happened in the natural habitat. I think it's, and this is probably another topic, but I mean, the whole concept of zoos is probably where things become a little bit problematic in itself. So I think, like I said, the framing of pets as food and all that is fine. But at the end of the day, if we're also critiquing the practice of even having zoos and taking these animals out of their natural habitat, then at the end of the day we should kind of simulate the natural feeding behavior because the more we remove them from that, it is just for human consumption, I think. So there has to be nuance in this. That's what I would say at least.

 

Fionn:

At least I think that's a very good take on it. And I mean I've always had that same feeling as well of I'm somebody who loves animals. For a long time in my life I wanted to be a zoologist, but I was always a little bit uncomfortable with the idea of a zoo where, you know, you are taking animals out of their natural habitat. But kind of balance that by knowing that actually not every zoo, right, but the good ones, they play a really important role particularly in like endangered animals in terms of breeding programs and you know, repopulation and preserving them. 

 

Golda:

Yeah 

 

Fionn:

And rehabilitating animals as well. If, you know, if some have been depending on the type of zoo and some of that's more kind of nature park stuff. But I've always kind of thought of that way as well and there clearly is a real benefit there. But again, well then what's the point of it? It's not just to have animals for human entertainment. So we should treat the animals as they maybe would like to be treated. Not that I expect a lion would typically have a guinea pig just wandering by, but if, if that's as close as we can get, that's as close as we can get. But that brings us, I think to our third and final topic that we're going to be talking about today. And we're kind of on the subject of maybe Danish culture in a degree with being, being cool with the zoos feeding, feeding horses to the lions. And another aspect of Danish culture is about 94% of 16 year olds in Denmark have tried alcohol and 73% of them have actually been drunk. Giving Denmark one of the highest rates of youth intoxication, which clap ourselves on the back. We should all be very proud of that one. So I mean I say this as somebody who I've been here for about six years, but alcohol plays a very important role I think in Danish culture in terms of socializing. But there is starting to be a shift and it's not to say that alcohol will no longer be a important part of Danish culture. I think the population might collapse if, if it went away entirely. But there is a movement towards non-alcoholic beer, other drinks that have been gaining a bit more attention both at festivals, for example Smukfest and Skanderborg kind of been in the news recently for setting records over the last two years with sales of non-alcoholic drinks. And we've also seen that kind of reflected in supermarkets as well, where the sales, and I would say also anecdotally, the selection of non-alcoholic beers and other drinks has really, really changed, I think, over the last few years. And I have to say I think this is really interesting also coming from a culture where every kind of social interaction, whether that is just going to meet your friends, going on a date, or even where you go after a funeral, it all takes place around the pub for us. And alcohol is kind of ever present, often in a way that's not particularly healthy as a society. So as somebody who loves to drink responsibly, but somebody who doesn't, you know, maybe drink as much as I did in my 20s, I think this is like very interesting. And I can really see myself also maybe taking this route more often than I ever would have considered, even four or five years ago. How about yourself?

 

Golda:

It's very interesting to hear your perspective as well, especially the way you frame it is something that I recognize. You know, when people gather, there's alcohol. If you're going on dates, people usually get alcohol to kind of loosen up a little bit. Or if someone's coming over, make sure you just tell people, hey, bring the drinks that you want. And then it's alcohol. I have a different take because I'm not a drinker of alcohol. I will take a cider here and there, but it's what, 3.5%? I don't necessarily like alcohol, but the conversation that I have had with people from cultural backgrounds like myself and maybe a few other more conservative cultures is that alcohol has also been a barrier to actually socializing with Danes. So thing of like, if we gather, alcohol has to be present in order for people to even really connect or speak. And if you're not drinking, either everyone's looking at you like why you're not drinking, or sometimes even feel like an internal guilt like this person's not drinking. Maybe I should not be drinking. And I've even had people come up to me and be like, you're so cool, like everyone's drinking and you're not drinking, like, how do you do it? And I'm like, it's not really something I do. I just don't have the desire to drink right, but I don't need you to feel a certain way because this is my choice. It's just a difference of taste. If you eat lasagna and I eat a burger, I'm not gonna be like, oh no, you know.

 

Fionn:

Sure.

 

Golda:

But I've also felt that when people do get drunk in social settings, things can happen that sometimes is regretted. And also the connections can be formed that are sometimes later forgotten. So like, I remember when I started at the University of Copenhagen, the, the class had like an outing. It was like a picnic. And during the day everybody was slowly getting to know each other. I know people are usually not as open when they don't know people. But then once the drinks came, you know, the games came and then, you know, I had this classmate that really opened up. I don't know why, but just like shared a bit about their life and from the culture I come from, that's very normal that people, they will tell you their entire life story and then continue. But what I found was that when that happened in Denmark, come Monday, it's like they don't know you anymore, you know, because either they feel ashamed that they overshared or they feel like now you're going to judge them because you know something and they don't remember because of the alcohol. So personally, I think if we could move towards a culture that is able to connect and create community, not completely eliminating alcohol, but maybe, you know, as the trend is going, maybe just connecting over regular drinks, non-alcoholic drinks and, and food. So with my culture is like food, food is the big thing. If you, if I invite you to my house, I'm feeding you as if I adopted you yesterday. You know, like, come here, my baby. So maybe finding something else that we can hygge. And I'm, I'm, I'm quite shocked to,  I'm reading here that a survey found that 25% of people believe that they should even wait till they're 18 to try alcohol compared to the stats that you just gave about like, you know, 94% have already tried by the age of 16. So there, there is a shift and it could be a little bit influenced from different cultures as well. Coming into Denmark and maybe vocalizing what I just said, or it could just be that people are thinking, I want to do this more responsibly and I want to be healthy in some way. I'm not really sure, but, for me it's a good thing.

 

Fionn:

Your last point there actually touches very much on how I feel about the whole thing. As somebody who does drink alcohol and has since I was probably 14 or 15 the first few times I maybe had one too many. And that is also kind of part of the culture I'm in, where in Denmark there's no legal drinking age, but from 15, 16, you can buy some beers, that sort of thing. Whereas Ireland it is 18 and you're not allowed to drink out in public. So the nice couple who are having a picnic can't have a glass of wine. But 15 year olds are trying to get somebody to buy alcohol in the supermarket for them and then go sit in the field somewhere and get completely blackout binge drunk. Which is, you know, obviously a very unhealthy relationship as a culture to have. But I think it's the social aspect I find quite interesting with this because I remember at times not because I had any issue necessarily with alcohol, but maybe like a little personal challenge or maybe for fitness, but doing like dry January or, you know these kind of like, let me kind of go off it for a while and not missing it in the sense that I was like, oh, I need to get drunk or I need to feel loosened up or anything like that. But going to friends birthday parties and feeling like I'm sticking out like a sore thumb because you know, in Ireland it's the same, it's like, why is that person not drinking? Is there something wrong with them? Are they an alcoholic? Are they pregnant? Are they like. But it's really like, what's going on there? And I remember, you know, the easiest solution I could find was like, well, let me order just a tonic water because it tastes a bit like a gin and tonic. So I'll kind of trick my mind to forget that I feel a bit uncomfortable and other people won't really realize and obviously that, that's not the coolest approach to it either. I think one of the, there's maybe like two actually non-alcoholic versions of drinks which almost really changed my mind. And I'm a lot older now, I don't drink nearly as much as I would have done, you know, when I was in university. I have a full time job and kids and all of that. So my like level of tolerance has also really gone down, but I often forget that. So there's still part of me which goes, oh, of course I can go out and drink 12 pints of beer and you know, be drunk by the end of the night, but still perfectly fine. And then I'll go out with friends and I'll have like four and I'll be like, this is hitting me in a way that it, it never did. And this is maybe really stereotypical but Guinness, which is, you know, the most popular beer in Ireland, they launched Guinness 00. So it's a completely alcohol free version.

 

Golda:

Oh, wow.

 

Fionn:

But it tastes very much like the actual normal Guinness to the point where, you know, you're not sitting there going, oof, this kind of tastes like one that was left out in the sun for a few weeks. And that was just a really nice moment of realization of like, I can enjoy this drink because I like the taste and it, you know, has a lot of fond memories of my culture and, you know, having one with my dad and that sort of stuff. But if I know that, like, hey, I'm going to be putting my daughter to bed later and I don't want to, you know, fall asleep beside her or I need to be a bit fresher in the morning, but I still kind of want to have something with the dinner when we're out or something like that. That was a really kind of nice, like, hey, I can just swap that out. And I have to say, here in Denmark, I discovered there's a brand called Ish, which is like, they do all these non-alcoholic spirits mostly. And as somebody who loves cocktails and everything, that was super because they have this like lime daiquiri which tastes like it's full of, you know, delicious Caribbean spice rum, but it's completely alcohol free. And it's like, wow, I could drink this like a soda if I wanted. And so being able to get those, you know, flavors and everything that you like, which are normally associated only with an alcoholic drink but just not was really, really cool as well. But I think it is that idea of sometimes needing a social prop, you know, like it's easier to talk to somebody in a smoking area if, if you're a smoker because you can ask them for a cigarette or a light or whatever and get that conversation started. And I think, you know, having an option to, well, still be around your friends who are drinking, even if you don't want to, whether that is for a cultural reason, for a personal reason, or just that evening, you know, like, I need to drive and not feeling like the odd one out. I think that's really, really cool. And I think maybe that's one of the reasons why you see that kind of reflected in, I don't know, even now when I look in my local supermarket, 10 years ago there might have been, you know, one non-alcoholic beer and now there's a couple of shelves with non-alcoholic beers and different options and everything as well. So I think it is a market. And I think as somebody who doesn't really intend on abandoning alcohol or anything like that. It's a nice trend to see that, like there's much more options there for people to cut back or people to just opt out without having to opt out of social situations or feel out of a place in them.

 

Golda:

Exactly. And you said supermarkets, they actually report that it's like 17 to 20% year on year growth. 

 

Fionn:

Oh that’s huge.

 

Golda:

So I think with those numbers, people are really thinking, yes, this is a market. And I like that as young people that are becoming more, what they call it, sober curious. And it also made me think about when I used to work for Health Tech Hub Copenhagen. When we had our Christmas party, I remember we did choose to go with mostly non-alcoholic choices, but that was because we all know what happens at Danish Christmas parties. I was like, I was pleasantly surprised. It was my first, like, I got hired in December. So that Christmas party was like my introduction to the community. So I was pleasantly surprised but also happy in, in some sense. But because of that, there was no dancing, so I had to dance by myself. So that's another thing. Can we like get the rhythm going even without alcohol?

 

Fionn:

I mean, you're, you're asking the wrong person here. I, I will probably be out on the dance floor, but can I get the rhythm going? No, no, I'll. The rhythm will be somewhere else entirely, but I'll be out there just embarrassing myself on others.

 

Golda:

I love it.

 

Fionn:

Brilliant. But I think that is all we have time for today. So I'd just love to say a huge thanks to you, Golda, for joining me today and obviously to our whole podcast team, our editors and producer, and of course to you, the listener, sitting at home as well, or sitting on your commute or wherever you are. We hope, as always, that Last Week in Denmark and the podcast makes living in Denmark and keeping up with life here in Denmark be that a little bit easier to feel more informed and feel a bit more connected. Well, we hope you've done that today.

 

Golda:

Yes, thank you. 

 

Fionn:

Thanks. Bye.

 

Golda:

Bye, 

 

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Fionn O'Toole

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Golda Fania

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